83 – How Good Men Slowly Lose Their Marriage w/ Larry Hagner
Sep 7
There is a way a man's life can fall apart without anything catastrophic ever happening.
No explosion. No single decision that destroys everything.
He just drifts.
Work. Bills. Kids. Logistics with his wife. Keep the house running. Maybe get a workout in.
Wash. Rinse. Repeat.
Then one day his wife feels more like a business partner than his lover. His kids are older. His body is failing him.
And somehow he wasn't really there for any of it.
Larry Hagner calls this the drift.
Larry is the founder of The Dad Edge, husband of 23 years and father of four boys. Two are now grown. He just dropped one off at college.
So I asked him:
What do you know now that fathers with young children desperately need to understand?
We talk about how impossibly fast fatherhood goes, why kids spell love T-I-M-E, and how Larry raised his older sons so intentionally that he could watch one leave home without being consumed by regret.
Then we go directly into marriage.
Larry believes one of the greatest gifts you can give your children is letting them watch you love their mother well.
Choose her. Date her. Know her. Touch her.
We get practical: helping your wife feel seen, heard and safe; why fixing can create disconnection; cognitive load; invisible labor; appreciation; and masculine leadership without control.
And Larry leaves us with one warning:
Disrupt the drift.
Nobody is coming to save your marriage.
Nobody is coming to build the relationship with your children.
Nobody is coming to build your body, deepen your faith or create the life you want.
We go first.
If you're listening before September 11–13:
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Self. Marriage. Fatherhood. Money. Leadership. Faith.
This is your last chance to get in the room.
LARRY HAGNER / THE DAD EDGE
Questions for the Car — 75 questions for deeper conversations with your children.
25 Questions — conversation starters for you and your wife.
The Pursuit of Legendary Fatherhood — Larry's newest book.
Dad Edge / Arizona Cardinals Dad & Kid Day — November 15 — Details shared in the episode.
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// Disrupt the drift.
x Rob



